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[MEGA TOPIC] Sudden decrease (around 70%) in Reach: Anyone else?

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Hello lovelies!๐Ÿ˜€

First of all, so glad to see this Business Community coming to life! Excited to see what future holds for all of us!

Now, onto the question! Has anyone experience a SUDDEN and SHARP drop in reach. I'm talking 70-80% in a day.

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And it keeps going down! Just in a day I disappeared of all search results for keywords that I have been ranking for.

The traffic is consistently down on all pins and all pages at a very similar percentage:

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And the pins

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Actually something like this has happened before and customer support has confirmed that I was caught by the spam filters accidentally. It then got fixed. Here is how it looked:

July 17:

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It took around a week to bounce right back up after I've been unflagged by the system. Now, I'm being told it's natural ebbs and flows:

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Now, has anyone experienced something similar to that? How did you bounce back? I publish new content consistenly and have been publishing more. I also upload videos but their reach has significantly dropped down too (by around the same percentage).

I have now stopped running ads because I feel like my reach is being limited by quite a bit. It doesn't seem to make sense to try to grow brand awareness.

I would love to go back up and continue growing with the community! I would highly appreciate if any of you have any advice!

Love and kisses!๐ŸŒป

-Karo

 

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Hello @PinterestJanice ,

I'm the person who initially created this topic: ''Sudden decrease (around 70%) in Reach: Anyone else?''. You've told me that I've been added to the safelist as of 26 of August and told me to come back to you! ๐Ÿ™‚

Unfortunately, that didn't seem to help. My reach continues to decrease every day.

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Similar trend seen on Google Analytics, I'm adding it because the data is more recent:

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I'm happy to include any other information/screenshots that might help you deduce what's the problem. ๐Ÿ™‚

Anyway, the question here is, what do I do? I would greatly appreciate your help Janice.

I hope I'm finding you in good health. You're doing a great job at this community, I'm glad we finally have some support out here!๐Ÿฅ€๐ŸŒป

My best wishes,

Karolina

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Isn't it clear enough that starting from April 2020 Pinterest has started to cut free traffic?
And that it does not want to tell you openly?
What other elements do you need to understand it on your own?

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Hello all,

I have not seen any improvement in my traffic and my pins are still hidden in the service.

It's very confusing how this is happening, please I've been following all your tips form the start of my account. There is no reason why this should happen. It is draining to keep making fresh daily pins that get no results. It's also very frustrating to just receive canned replies on best practices because we content creators already comply to that.

Please, I need to keep using this account, and it's causing my wasted time and immense loss of daily revenue.

 

Yaz

 

 

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Hello Janice,

 

I know we are in constant replies, but my account is behaving like  flagged accounts that were unflagged but traffic hasn't rebounded. I've patiently waited in this whole month, I've been told I was not flagged, my account was safelisted, but this is not yielding any favorable results. Is there any chance we can also to escalate further?

 

Thanks ,

Yaz

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@PinterestGabby @PinterestRyan @PinterestBrad 

A lot of people have complained severally about a serious decline in traffic and pin impressions since May 2020 but the only reasonable thing Pinterest support says is "normal ebbs and flows". Every content creator who has been on Pinterest for at least two years would know that this current decline has nothing to do with seasons or users' interest. It's possible that Pinterest is giving preference to advertisers who have money to spend on promoted pins and the rest of us have to remain on the treadmill working our butts off for peanuts.

All social media platforms start out generous and end up this way. It's totally unfair! I've worked extra hard in the last two months creating new pins and videos but my impressions are just so low. We deserve some honesty and transparency at least instead of the new Pinterest anthem "create new pins". This current pandemic and the upcoming holidays is not a good time to experience low traffic. Please share your thoughts! I've attached my screenshots below as evidence.

 

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Hi @jenniferdagi@allnutritiousblog,  

I understand your frustration and let me tell you we're all in the same pot! I have used Pinterest for many years now...personally and for multiple businesses. There are certainly MAJOR changes occurring and yes, I don't believe its good news for content creators running a business...be it a blog, website, or other income focused content. Here is what I gather from everything that is happening. For me, their intent is obvious....

  1. In the communications from Pinterest, Tailwind etc... they are focusing on NEW "FRESH" content. This means completely new content, images, titles, and descriptions (*not hashtags)
  2. The value of previous content (aka. our work) has been greatly diminished and now subject to these new rules...It is their platform...they can do what they want ๐Ÿ˜ž
  3. They wonโ€™t share what exactly how many pins is "excessive" for some good reasons, but it also creates a muddled atmosphere for creators. Effectively itโ€™s a guessing game and IMO creates an environment that favors creators who are willing to "risk" penalty to gain more impressions/viewers. 
  4. Their newest creation "Story Pins" are a great idea, but they have 1 major flaw. They don't support external websites/links. In fact, they have repeatedly mentioned the words "on platform audience". 

 In summary:

Pinterest wants its content creators to create more and more "FREE", high quality, diverse content for their platform. They will mostly favor creators that have the means to push more content over anyone else (I think quantity over quality will be the byproduct), but the biggest change to me is they want creators to keep their audiences ON PINTEREST! They have stated story pins don't support external links/websites which is really a slap in the face to its content creators. We create high quality content, follow their rules and guidelines with the expectation that we can benefit mutually. I would argue this has changed.

Itโ€™s obvious to me they are making moves to capitalize on their users. What makes me even more confused is how Tailwind thinks this is a good thing for their business and seems to be dancing around the fact that Pinterest has made them antiquated. I mean you can schedule pins on Pinterest lol and there is little to no value in re-pinning older content or someone else's. So now content creators canโ€™t even support each other. I wish it were different, I think they had a solid platform for creators, but it looks like Google and SEO is the one and only. These observations are my opinions based on what I have seen and experienced. If I am missing something i'm open to learning. 

Good luck!

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Hi @allnutritiousblog @jenniferdagi

I understand your frustration and let me tell you we're all in the same pot! I have used Pinterest for many years now...personally and for multiple business. There are certainly MAJOR changes occurring and yes, I don't believe its good news for content creators running a business...be it a blog, website, or other income focused content. Here is what I gather from everything that is happening. For me, their intent is obvious....

  1. In the communications from Pinterest, Tailwind etc... they are focusing on NEW "FRESH" content. This means completely new content, images, titles, and descriptions (*not hashtags)
  2. The value of previous content (aka. our work) has been greatly diminished and now subject to these new rules...It is their platform...they can do what they want ๐Ÿ˜ž
  3. They wonโ€™t share what exactly how many pins is "excessive" for some good reasons, but it also creates a muddled atmosphere for creators. Effectively itโ€™s a guessing game and IMO creates an environment that favors creators who are willing to "risk" penalty to gain more impressions/viewers. 
  4. Their newest creation "Story Pins" are a great idea, but they have 1 major flaw. They don't support external websites/links. In fact, they have repeatedly mentioned the words "on platform audience". 

 In summary:

Pinterest wants its content creators to create more and more "FREE", high quality, diverse content for their platform. They will mostly favor creators that have the means to push more content over anyone else (I think quantity over quality will be the byproduct), but the biggest change to me is they want creators to keep their audiences ON PINTEREST! They have stated story pins don't support external links/websites which is really a slap in the face to its content creators. We create high quality content, follow their rules and guidelines with the expectation that we can benefit mutually. I would argue this has changed.

Itโ€™s obvious to me they are making moves to capitalize on their users. What makes me even more confused is how Tailwind thinks this is a good thing for their business and seems to be dancing around the fact that Pinterest has made them antiquated. I mean you can schedule pins on Pinterest lol and there is little to no value in re-pinning older content or someone else's. So now content creators canโ€™t even support each other. I wish it were different, I think they had a solid platform for creators, but it looks like Google and SEO is the one and only. These observations are my opinions based on what I have seen and experienced. If I am missing something I open to learning. 

Good luck!

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Hi, everyone!

@PinterestJaniceThank you for putting this in one topic and having a look into it! ๐Ÿ˜Š

I'd like to point out again the date that keeps repeating here: 11th of August. Something must have happened there.

My impressions (at ScatteredQuotes profile) were steady for months and so was me posting pins. New pins (now being called "fresh") in like 90% of the time to be exact. The rest was ocassional random repin from others. I don't do group boards or repinning my own content. With being on Pinterest for years, the drop was extremely noticable. Like no way that is intented behavior.

Even if this was some effort from Pinterest to diminished the "free trafic" as some are suggesting, it would be very badly executed. No one would ever be able to grow their accounts organically.

Every new pin I create isn't getting anywhere now. I presume it works like this: new pin shows up in the following tab, in home feed and probably in related pins. If it gets enough engagement from the followers then it gets a boost in search and can live on for a long time. Now it dies immediately. From the one or two saves I sometimes get now on those I can tell people stumbled on the pin directly - visiting my profile or being new to Pinterest and my profile being the only thing they've followed so far.

My "old pins" (posted before 11th) seem to be okay, I still get saves from search and I can even see the saves being affected by trends - so they are searchable. If there was some decrease of impressions from them, it's not as prominent as for the new pins.
(Update: Spoke too soon, I haven't tried to search for my pins in few days, they are gone now, or almost gone from the search. If I do see my image pop up, it is mostly leading to spam. I guess that explains the second drop I see on my analytics around 23th of August.)

Hence with this being known to me I went to support asking what is wrong with the new pins distribution as they are not going anywhere. Maybe the home feed is broken? I got the classic "you're not flagged for spam and fresh pins tips" and after further exchanges ended up with "internal team will check that, wait" and ticket is closed now.

Only thing left is this place where we all share the same story and being stuck on not knowing what to do.

And also I've been wondering... Is this happening just to the few of us that are speaking up, or to everyone but they haven't noticed it? 'Cause in theory people using Tailwind's tribes and group boards could perhaps not see the drop. As far as I understand they often have rules about saving other members content which would make their impressions stay. And people with inconsistent posting, not watching analytics and those with little following could also not notice it. Or attribute it to normal "ebs and flows".

Thank you for reading my rant as that is the only thing that I can do about this. Still hoping it could give someone a clue to what is happening and be able to fix it soon.

For now, let's not give up and hold on, guys! I hope we can get back to our regular pinning soon.

- Alesia Skye: @ScatteredQuotes & @Kontentsia (nothing there yet)
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 @PinterestGabby @PinterestJanice

Thank you for consolidating everything in this thread.  I have contacted support numerous times about this same issue over the last 3 months and my site's traffic is still dead. I am lost as to what I can do.

In June, I was told that there was a bug in spam blocker and that it was mistakenly flagging safe content. The rep said Pinterest was working on this to get everything back to normal and they would follow back up as soon as the bug is fixed.  Nobody ever followed up. My site's traffic continued to fall week after week. Like others in this thread, it has disappeared from Search.

I have filed another ticket but received a generic reply from them. I would really appreciate if you escalate this to the engineering team. Thanks so much.

Reference here:  Id #208117

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My issue is Not getting solved. My pins have totally disappeared from the search engine in a single day.

Please look in my matter.

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